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Join us for Structure Summit Sunday – 7 June from 16:00 GMT

Posted: June 3rd, 2009 | Author: | Filed under: 6.0 Structure, Community, designing together, Questions, Usability Testing | Tags: | 20 Comments »

Update – Transcript and Document Of Record

Thank you to everyone who participated in the Summit on Sunday – there were several dozen people in attendance and it was a very productive session.

A transcript of proceedings can be downloaded here PDF (note: it’s about 150 pages of Skype chat, so only do this if you’re feeling brave/bored/exceptionally curious). We also tried to keep a document of record showing our agenda, some outputs and an incomplete list of participants, which you can see here. It is not entirely comprehensive and should be considered a working document only.

The discussion around the overall outcome for Structure continues and we will post an update soon.

The essential information Our mission: to come to an agreement on whether the Site Building Tool should be included in D7 and if so, how we can best make it work for both the Drupal technical architecture and existing Drupal users AND for it’s primary target audience.

Should you choose to accept this mission:

  1. Join the Skype public chatroom here
  2. Download Skitch to help capture and share your ideas visually
  3. Add your name to the comments below so we can add you to shared Google documents (use your proper email address in the comment form so you can receive access notifications)
  4. Be online at 16:00 GMT on Sunday 7 June (what time is this where you are? and with profound apologies to our Australian and NZ friends for such an unsociable time)
  5. Spread the word! We want all kinds of people involved from Drupaller to People Who Should Use Drupal But Can’t, from developers to designers to shop owners and site administrators.

Our Moderator
I’m really excited to report that Ivanka Majic, Head of Design at Canonical, will be moderating our Summit on Sunday. Ivanka has a great appreciation for the challenges of designing for open source projects and a vested interested in D7UX being a good user experience, because the Canonical site is running on Drupal! She’s also a great moderator and I’m confident she’ll help us to ensure that we get to some firm and actionable outcomes on Sunday. Thanks Ivanka!

Homework
If you have the chance beforehand it would be great if you can check out the two most recent ‘prototype’ walkthroughs that we’ve posted (video see below), as well as the Project Framework Page for Structure.

A little background. If you’ve been playing along at home you have no doubt come across the Site Building Tool that we have proposed to live in the Structure section of the D7UX interface. We believe that the design and implementation of this tool can make the most significant difference in making it possible for non-technical users to make a reasonably sophisticated site using Drupal within a matter of hours, not the weeks or months that it often requires of new players at the moment.

The more time I spend talking to people who *should* be able to use Drupal but who can’t, and people who have had brief experiences with Drupal then ran away screaming in either frustration of fear, the more convinced I am of this. As recently as yesterday I took our latest prototype out to show some people, and despite the fact that it is still very rough and confusing, it’s potential was obvious.

We’ve been talking about this tool since early April – time is passing rapidly and if we want to make this happen we need to get on board with the concept and start working out how we can make it work. We need to do this as a matter of urgency. Our current channels are not moving us forward quickly enough, so I’m going to propose that we try something a little different.

Structure Summit Sunday

The absolute best way to get to the bottom of these complex issues is to get everyone in a room to thrash it out. Of course, we can’t all get in the same physical space together, so let’s try the next best thing and all meet this Sunday with the express purpose of coming to an agreement on what this tool can be and how we can make it happen.

I want to walk away from this session on Sunday with a clear vision for the tool and a feeling that the people who participated share this vision and our enthusiasm for the challenge ahead. (Of course, the flip side is that we decide that we can’t do it… which would be unfortunate, but I guess we have to consider it as an outcome).

I considered a bunch of ways to approach this, originally thinking that we’d do it in IRC, but with some more thought I’ve decided to create a public Skype chat that we can all join. This is a less intimidating environment for non-techy, non-Drupally people (and I’d really like to have a good mix of all of us in the discussion).

You can join the public chatroom on Skype using that link but we’re not really going to get the Summit going until 16:00 GMT on Sunday 7 June.

Why should I get involved if I’m not a Drupal developer?

  • chances are you’re more likely to be in the target audience for this tool – your insight will be incredibly helpful in helping us get this right. (Especially if you can identify with the Jeremy character sketched out here)
  • you will be the people who will be able to keep us focused on the right user experience, so that we don’t get caught up in How Drupal Works and What Can Be Done
  • you can be instrumental in making Drupal an Awesome User Experience – this means putting some pretty powerful tools in the hands of people who can do amazing things with them.
  • you will win mine and Mark’s undying gratitude by helping us solve a really tricky design problem that will make a big difference.
  • you’ll be working on Something That Matters.

Please, please, please come join us and help make this happen. The saddest thing of all would be if a good idea died because we didn’t act on it quickly and decisively enough.


20 Comments on “Join us for Structure Summit Sunday – 7 June from 16:00 GMT”

  1. 1 Tassoman said at 12:42 pm on June 3rd, 2009:

    Skype chat seems not working on Linux desktops? Or can you publish some hints about it?

  2. 2 Michael F. Booth said at 12:52 pm on June 3rd, 2009:

    Signing on for the summit…

  3. 3 Bob Watson said at 1:12 pm on June 3rd, 2009:

    Yes, I’d like to attend the summit.

  4. 4 Hans said at 2:34 pm on June 3rd, 2009:

    signing up for summit.

  5. 5 eigentor said at 3:02 pm on June 3rd, 2009:

    Great stuff, am very curious. Signing up.

  6. 6 Leisa Reichelt said at 4:29 pm on June 3rd, 2009:

    I don’t know from personal experience however people are telling me that it should work ok but may need some configuration. Apparently this link should help:

    http://amoore2600.wordpress.com/2007/07/27/callto-linkify-for-skype-with-linux/

  7. 7 webchick said at 3:48 am on June 4th, 2009:

    Woo! Count me in! :D

  8. 8 Maarten Verbaarschot said at 7:46 am on June 5th, 2009:

    I’ll join you!

  9. 9 Paul Lovvik said at 4:55 pm on June 5th, 2009:

    I will join.

  10. 10 Joel 'Senpai' Farris said at 5:36 pm on June 5th, 2009:

    Subscribe! (I had to say it. You know I did.)

  11. 11 catch said at 11:24 am on June 7th, 2009:

    I can’t make the summit, but is there any chance of posting the logs? (assuming it’s text)

  12. 12 Leisa Reichelt said at 11:32 am on June 7th, 2009:

    that’s a shame catch – we’ll be taking minutes as we go, but I’ll also see if I can get the transcript from the chat (yes, it is all text) and post that.

  13. 13 Tassoman said at 11:38 am on June 7th, 2009:

    Next time we’ll need a Google Wave to do this … :p

    But, for this event I’ll reboot onto windoze …

  14. 14 mike stewart said at 7:30 pm on June 7th, 2009:

    FWIW- I tried to connect this morning (+9GMT), and even spread the word yesterday at BADcamp. I decided to install skype on my linux setup just for this call … but once installed firefox didnt know what to do with the link for the group chat.

    I got a frustrated and decided to move-on to something more productive.

    hope the chat was productive.

  15. 15 mike stewart said at 7:33 pm on June 7th, 2009:

    doh! just saw the link above: http://amoore2600.wordpress.com/2007/07/27/callto-linkify-for-skype-with-linux/

    (wish i had noticed earlier)

  16. 16 joshmiller said at 9:41 pm on June 7th, 2009:

    I know no one who went through the structure summit wants to hear this… but since I couldn’t make it… is there a transcript or minutes that is just waiting to be posted?

    I’d love to see what happened.

    Josh

  17. 17 Leisa Reichelt said at 10:22 am on June 10th, 2009:

    updated post with a link to the transcript from the summit and the document of record.

    thanks to everyone who participated!

  18. 18 Gurpartap Singh said at 7:29 pm on June 12th, 2009:

    Skitch is Mac OS only. Would be good if we can mention a Windows alternative. Hint: MS Paint.

  19. 19 eigentor said at 10:22 am on June 13th, 2009:

    The heavens may save me from MS Paint.
    But Jing by Techsmith is a viable Alternative to Skitch http://www.jingproject.com/

  20. 20 dbeall@drupal.org said at 10:46 pm on July 24th, 2009:

    this is interesting stuff, even if it is hidden from the community. But, i did find it a couple of months after the fact… better late than never i guess.
    My comment:
    The reason I chose Drupal after building test sites with 8 other cms’s is because it was the most difficult to work with. I know that sounds odd, but it’s true.
    I figured If Drupal had more stuff in the backend than any other system, then it was the one I wanted.. guess what, I was right.

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